Stephen was recently interviewed by Lian Brook-Tyler on The Wild Sovereign Soul Show. This is what the show had to say about their time together:
In this episode, Lian and Stephen talk about what it’s like to have spent decades helping other people meet their dying, and then have to meet your own diagnosis. That question runs under everything they cover, from the childhood illness he now recognises as an early imprint, to the raku cup he broke and had mended with gold.
They get into the word anesthetic, and how splitting it open changed how he understood addiction and beauty both, why he pushes back on the word joy, and what it means to recognise an ending while you’re still inside it, rather than only afterwards, once it’s already gone.
Listen if dying feels like something that will just happen to you one day, and perhaps something you’d rather not think or talk about, than something you’re consciously living into.
What you’ll discover in this episode:
- What a man who spent years teaching about loss learned from taking out his most beautiful possession, locked away untouched for a decade
- Why gratitude isn’t the reward for hard times passing — it’s what can arise when you refuse to forget they happened at all
- Why knowing your own death is inevitable does almost nothing, and what it takes to stay inside that knowledge day to day
Prefer to listen? Find the episode and show notes at Wild Sovereign Soul.
